Come on in. Take a look around.
July 6, 2011
So you are at this blog for some reason. I am not going to guess why. There are many reasons parents, and kids, and others come to visit this blog. But I do know that when you first look around, you might think some of the entries are dated. Well, they are.
But that doesn’t mean they are irrelevant. Lessons for kids regarding money are timeless. Sure, economies change. The size of your savings account changes. And your kids grow up – and change. But the lessons don’t change much.
So come on in. Look around. Use the masthead to your right to look for topics that will be helpful to you in teaching your kids about money. Follow timelines of stories. See the progress. And how our experiences can help you.
We have a lot going on in our family. Lots of recent money lessons learned. And given.
I will try to get some more stories up shortly.
Justine
Kids Get Older and Lessons Change.
December 6, 2010
As parents, we know that our kids grow up very quickly. They are slipping out of our hands like little grains of sand.
And because of that, we need to get our lessons completed in a finite amount of time. We, as parents, are required to teach our children all kind of matters about money before our children march out of the house to be responsible adults who will contribute to our vast world.
My three kids are a senior in high school, a freshman in high school and a seventh-grader, respectively. And because of that, the lessons that I am teaching them have evolved. But still, they are different for each child.
For Hannah, my senior in high school, who will leave my house in a mere nine months, the lessons are about putting the finishing touches on all that I have taught her. And they are about sitting on the sidelines and just being a coach and an advisor. There is little you can teach a senior in high school. They are done listening. They are on that bridge to adulthood and leaving their parents behind.
For Jon, my freshman in high school, we are really moving into ‘big people personal finance.’ He has mastered his credit card. It’s time to start learning about checking accounts and really earning money and saving for college.
For Max, my seventh grader, it’s about finishing off some of the money lessons of childhood and trying to transition him to the idea of credit cards and really earning money and having all of these lessons start jelling in his head.
As parents, we must be flexible and creative and progressive in how we teach our children about money. We need to be cognizant of each of their ages and places in childhood and how much time has passed and how much time we have remaining in their childhoods as we administer our lessons.
Justine
Heh. You think I have really responsible kids?
December 2, 2010
All kids are different. Don’t all parents know that? It’s actually incredible to see how different your kids can be from one other.
I have two boys, thirty months apart in age, who nearly look like twins. It’s funny. But they couldn’t be more different.
Jon, my elder son, has a credit card and a mobile phone and manages both of them pretty well. This month, at least, he is a straight A student. He is affable and sweet and compassionate and generous. He has a wide worldly view and his empathy can be astounding.
And then there is Max. Max is my younger son. He is sweet and charming and devious and cunning and brilliant and a very good liar. As his mother, I love all those things about him. I have to.
But Max is also pretty immature for his age of twelve and a half years old. In my opinion, relative to my other kids and kids his age.
I tell you this because Max just isn’t on the same learning track as my other two kids when it comes to money. We’ve already learned a lot about Max. We gave him a mobile phone when he entered the sixth grade, in middle school, as we had done with our two older children. But Max never used the phone and it just sat in his room. So we just let it fall away. Based on that, we haven’t helped Max get a credit card. He just doesn’t seem interested, and frankly, I think he is going to be more of a challenge with a credit card than my other two kids.
In fact, now that I think about it, our son, Max, owes his dad about $400 in charges from iTunes that he made with his iTunes account. We’ve shut that account down and are dealing with this latest issue.
Just because I write a blog about Parents Teaching Kids About Money doesn’t mean I have all the answers. Or that my kids are all great at this. But hopefully, that makes me a more credible and authentic teacher and counselor to you, my readers.
Justine
Yesterday we talked about folks who write about kids and money and how they are, in general, teaching the values of responsibility and frugality. Yeah, I suppose it goes with the territory. But later in the article that I cited yesterday (1) one of the Yoders’ readers wrote the following:
“Tightwad dads have few attendees at their funerals. Yes, teaching our kids the value of money through self-reliance and discipline is important, very important. So are generosity and random acts of kindness.”
Generosity and random acts of kindness certainly are important values to teach our kids. And I think they are best taught through example. We can all remember times when someone cut us a break. I remember when my father approached me in the autumn of my sophomore year in college and suggested that I should buy a car. I was stunned when he told me that he knew that a dealership was having a big clearance and that he would help me by buying half of the car himself and lending me the money for the other half, interest free, and that I wouldn’t have to pay the note back until I graduated from college and started working.
I know my dad was teaching me a lot by proposing this business deal. But I mostly saw it as my tightwad dad cutting me a huge amount of slack and helping me out. This act on his part has always stuck with me.
So I try to exhibit these same characteristics of generosity and random acts of kindness with my kids, especially through lessons on money. And knowing that these values are being delivered can make you, as a parent, feel better about breaking your rules from time to time and helping your kids out.
And rules are made to broken, right?
Justine
1) Yoder, Stephen Kreider and Isaac S.; \”Readers\’ Turn: Clunkers, Job Loss and More\”; Wall Street Journal, December 21, 2008
You folks know that two of my favorite writers on kids and money are Stephen Yoder and his son, Isaac, at the Wall Street Journal. These two guys, father and son, share a column and write from their different perspectives on teaching kids about money. They don’t get as deep as we do here, mostly because they only write the column about once a week. We post every business day, so we cover a lot more material here.
But Stephen and Isaac have a large readership, some of which comes and reads us here, as well.
In a recent column of theirs, a reader noted that Stephen and Isaac preach “frugality and responsibility.” This reader also commented that she and her husband “are trying as parents to avoid the sense of entitlement, preaching industry and hard work, and attempting to lead by example.”1
I liked what that parent had to say in the Yoder’s column on December 21. I hadn’t really thought about that fact that anyone who is writing about teaching kids about money is probably preaching “frugality and responsibility.” I suppose that is what we are doing here at KidsMoney. I certainly don’t think that someone who is writing a column or a blog on money and kids is likely to teach lavishness and irresponsibility, right?
Although, for certain, there are many parents who do not intentionally teach their children about money. And they may indeed be teaching lavishness and irresponsibility by the example they set in their homes. We’ve heard plenty of stories of folks who supposedly had achieved the American Dream of many things, but had done it in a fashion that had not used the values of frugality and responsibility, but rather through excessive debt and overspending.
Here’s to the concepts of frugality and responsibility – ones that might be good to teach our kids and ones that might be back in fashion again.
Justine
1) Yoder, Stephen Kreider and Isaac S.; “Readers’ Turn: Clunkers, Job Loss and More”; Wall Street Journal, December 21, 2008
These times
February 5, 2009
We have lots of stuff to cover in this blog. All kinds of lessons and pointers and ideas.
But this week, as the economic news gets worse and worse, it seems rather inappropriate to dive into more lessons. Rather, the feelings and sentiments of what we are all going through seem more relevant.
And they are relevant to this blog because much of what we are dealing with in these times are about money. About losing jobs, losing credit, having to lay employees off, determining not to make a purchase, having to visit the food bank.
My two sons, Jon and Max, are Boy Scouts. This weekend, in my home county, the Boy Scouts of America are running a food drive. It is called “Scouting for Food”. The boys participate in this food drive every year. The boys compete amongst each other in their troop, weighing the food they have collected in order to win accolades from the troop.
But it is so different this year. We as a family know that the need for food among families in our county has escalated dramatically. It has become so much more imperative that my boys get out there to collect food for the local food bank. Not to win praise, but to help ameliorate this crisis.
So we’ve been talking about this food drive all week. I expect my boys to work their butts off for this food drive this weekend.
Justine
These family discussions provide valuable lessons to my boys about money. About how families need money for food, and that there are more families who don’t have enough money to buy food in this economic environment.
In teaching our kids about money, there are so many paths to take. Or so many paths that lead you to places unknown.
Justine
“how to write my credentials for diploma in management in my cards”
February 4, 2009
I recently found that somebody found this blog via the search term in the title of this post:
“how to write my credentials for diploma in management in my cards”
I took this search term verbatim from my dashboard.
I love this search term. Some teen out there is managing her own credit cards and realizes that doing so is quite an accomplishment. It seems to me she wanted to write about it, using it as a feather in her cap.
What a fantastic find for me, to see that there are teens who have credit cards and that they realize that they are unusual in this respect and that it is an accomplishment worth writing about. Because it is.
Any teen who has a credit card for several years and learns the complicated ins and outs of using it has accomplished more than many, many adults. And that teen therefore has learned responsibility and self-advocacy.
And that is what we are trying to teach our kids here at KidsMoney.
Justine
Swimming heads
February 3, 2009
People’s heads are swimming. We are dealing with a surreal economic and financial environment. I am intrigued with how people are dealing with it.
I’ve had people tell me that their heads are ‘swimming’ with all of the chaos they have to deal with. I’ve been talking with presidents of companies whose financing will soon expire and the companies are scrambling to figure out to survive. I’ve talked to men and women who say that if one of the breadwinners of the household lose their job, it will be ‘all over.’ I’ve talked with people who are in tears about making only $3.5mm this year instead of $4.5mm. I’ve talked with people who don’t have enough food in the house to feed the children.
Through it all, I go home and I talk to my kids. I let them know that I have done my absolute best in trying to parent them and to provide for them. I speak to them very openly about the very different ways in which everyone is dealing with the change in our economy and in the financial markets. I tell them that I may not be able to do everything, financially, that I had once hoped to do for them. But that, even so, we will be OK and that this is a great learning opportunity.
I said this to Jon recently. Jon said, “Well, all I really need is a bed, food, school and friends.” I reminded him that he goes to school with children who do not have a pillow to sleep on. He said he knew that. He said he was glad to have a pillow and a bed.
And I thought, “Me, too.”
Justine
An interesting example of how a parent taught her kid about money
December 29, 2008
A while back, on October 17th, I shared a story from National Public Radio with you. The link to the NPR story is at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95793263 or you can find it at right via the story Tough Economic Times Hit Teens, Too.
I went back to look at the story and saw a few comments there. I loved this comment, which you can find at the cited link:
“OK. I have a nearly 21 year old that pays her own car note, and buys cell service for her dad and I. Yes living at home; but a full time college student and works 20 – 30 hours a week and is an athlete. Now more teachers than you can count yelled at me furiously… I payed her 20 bucks a report card A starting in the 3rd grade and never questioned how she spent it. It did not take long for her to learn not to buy junk; save; budget… A B was worth 10 a C zip a D (happened once) was a $50 fine payable directly to me. Look we ask them to do so much, its hard to teach “work ethic”.. it probably wont work for everyone; but it worked for us. Today my husband has had 3 months of work in the last 18.. things are getting thin, but our daughter understands that it make take all three of us to pay the mortgage etc… its a family responsibility! **beaming** (not that she doesn’t have typical young adult growing pains – )”
I love this comment. This mom worked hard to teach her daughter about money. She used some creative methods and didn’t think too hard about what others might think about her methods. Both she and her daughter have reaped tremendous rewards from those lessons.
You and I could go on and on about whether parents should pay for grades. And from what I hear, most people think that paying for grades is a horrible thing. But who cares? This mom was teaching valuable lessons about money. She was teaching valuable lessons about money because she was facilitating ways for her daughter to access money so that her daughter could learn how to manage money.
It is all about sharing ideas. I think that is cool.
Justine
Slowing Down
December 25, 2008
Our blog will resume postings on Monday, December 29th. We hope you enjoy this holiday time. If you are with your kids, teach them something about money.
Justine